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Solar projects also bring out protests

A2Z News -- BLYTHE, Calif. — One of California’s showcase solar energy projects, under construction in the desert east of Los Angeles, is being threatened by a deadly outbreak of distemper among kit foxes and the discovery of a prehistoric human settlement on the work site.

The $1 billion Genesis Solar Energy Project has been expedited by state and federal regulatory agencies that are eager to demonstrate that the nation can build solar plants quickly to ease dependence on fossil fuels and curb global warming.

Instead, the project is providing a cautionary example of how the rush to harness solar power in the desert can go wrong — possibly costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars and dealing an embarrassing blow to the Obama administration’s solar initiative.

Native Americans, including

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,590 Points:1,606,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 6:59:44 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse should this not have been surveyed before the project began?
fedupMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,933 Points:569,455 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 8:06:14 PM Ignore fedupMN Report Abuse OK
BlackSbr Champion Author Nevada Posts:1,000 Points:560,550 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 7:33:56 AM Ignore BlackSbr Report Abuse It's never just the good news
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,247 Points:1,738,780 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 5:43:40 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse More Government created problems.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,927 Points:2,342,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 4:13:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Solar projects also bring out protests and is being threatened by a deadly outbreak of distemper among kit foxes and the discovery of a prehistoric human settlement on the work site. Make sure the work site is clear of historical, archeological and cultural artifacts And rare plants or animals before building. Cheaper renewable energy from solar, wind, hydro, thermal, tidal and/or nuclear to replace the oil that will not be there some day. Cheaper alternative fuels from algae, bacteria, the biomass or the waste stream. Whatever the size or shape the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using ‘other’ forms of transportation or car pool to lower your cost for transportation. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,927 Points:2,342,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 4:11:11 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse One thing that will NOT bring out protests for Solar projects…… If more large business warehouses would install solar panels and/or wind turbines on their very large mega roofs, they could cut their electrical use or sell a surplus back to the electrical supplier. Wal Mart, USPS, UPS, DHL, FedEx, Costco, Boeing, Target, NASA, many airports and military buildings are possible locations. REI, a national outdoor store, has solar panels on their roofs and high efficiency lighting in every store across the nation, LEED certified. The more electricity generated by green solutions, the more for house, building and vehicle use and electricity NOT generated by dirty coal, oil or natural gas. Cheaper renewable energy from solar, wind, hydro, thermal, tidal and/or nuclear. Whatever the size or shape the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using ‘other’ forms of transportation or car pool to lower your cost for transportation. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,055 Points:1,508,570 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 2:31:16 AM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse . . Location Location Location...
confetti Veteran Author Tampa Posts:349 Points:359,865 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 1:58:59 AM Ignore confetti Report Abuse More money wasted!
ammamama13 Rookie Author California Posts:96 Points:68,285 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 1:17:41 AM Ignore ammamama13 Report Abuse interesting.....
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MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,536 Points:1,169,685 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 1:01:36 AM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Personally I find it very interesting to explore the top 5 (five) aricles of the day. And Yesterday.
tampacrvdriver Champion Author Tampa Posts:3,336 Points:709,185 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 1:01:29 AM Ignore tampacrvdriver Report Abuse Why protest solar?
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bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,767 Points:641,510 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:54:26 AM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse They should have just flooded the place first. I have seen kit foxes before though, they are cute. I assume dead indian remains, not so cute.
ravenclaw_29 Rookie Author Oakland Posts:53 Points:11,410 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:53:10 AM Ignore ravenclaw_29 Report Abuse OK
Grebe All-Star Author Wisconsin Posts:574 Points:1,132,115 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:52:51 AM Ignore Grebe Report Abuse Here's an interesting ditty making the rounds re the beneficiaries of Obama's "green agenda": "Just a little something to think about as you fill out your 2011 IRS tax return. The Solar thing just got a little more interesting.......REALLY! • The Tonopah Solar company in Harry Reid's Nevada is getting a $737 million loan from Obama's DOE. • The project will produce a 110 megawatt power system and employ 45 permanent workers. • That's costing us just $16 million per job. • One of the investment partners in this endeavor is Pacific Corporate Group (PCG). And oh, the PCG executive director is Ron Pelosi who is the brother to Nancy's husband. Just move along folks.....nuthin' goin on here."
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Throroughbred Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,031 Points:1,210,770 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:50:51 AM Ignore Throroughbred Report Abuse They say haste makes waste......welllllll looks like another example for sure.
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goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,926 Points:1,921,805 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:45:47 AM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Think things thru better. Rushing doesn't make things right.
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tidalwave3 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:1,294 Points:1,460,075 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:36:36 AM Ignore tidalwave3 Report Abuse Double ops
Prozac4me Rookie Author Huntsville Posts:16 Points:671,200 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:36:14 AM Ignore Prozac4me Report Abuse We should be protesting that we're completely dependent on foreign oil!
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:553,230 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:30:49 AM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Opps, who knew
PoohMcGoo Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,062 Points:797,360 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:28:42 AM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse Embarrassing blow to the administration.. get out of here..
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,062 Points:793,375 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:28:41 AM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse Oh Oh, another Green project head south.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,210 Points:869,225 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:27:41 AM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse More taxpayer money down a "green" rathole.
sit Champion Author Cleveland Posts:5,185 Points:1,928,945 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:27:21 AM Ignore sit Report Abuse What would the liberal media say if a Republican was in office?
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,048 Points:1,728,210 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:26:26 AM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse maybe california should leave the union?
KhelbenArunson Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,425 Points:713,865 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:24:06 AM Ignore KhelbenArunson Report Abuse I dont see how this is embarrassing to the administration. No one knew the settlement was there to begin with.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,529,650 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:23:26 AM Ignore OGW Report Abuse The desert is still the best place for solar farms.
skyking19 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:1,995 Points:1,695,970 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:23:20 AM Ignore skyking19 Report Abuse No doubt very poor management.
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:6,059 Points:1,666,625 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:20:36 AM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse What a waste of taxpayer money.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,109,385 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:18:51 AM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse No kit foxes or prehistoric humans on rooftops, no need to waste land for panels,mirrors and lines... Wonder how the TreeHuggers got to the Solar project horse and buggy or SUvs??? TreeHuggers vs. TreeHugger now they are even stopping themselves... FYI this Solar project uses mirrors NOT panels...
danol43 Champion Author Modesto Posts:1,697 Points:585,930 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:10:10 AM Ignore danol43 Report Abuse So the government did something and it turned out poorly. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
crowefamily1 All-Star Author Texas Posts:804 Points:297,100 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:09:57 AM Ignore crowefamily1 Report Abuse big deal shoot the dogs and dig up the bones, we can't let crap get in the way of progress.
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,125 Points:1,879,670 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:07:04 AM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse Thanks for messing up again.
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,027 Points:1,510,225 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:04:00 AM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse What new? An obama is an Embarrassment to the Country! An thats the USA!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,907 Points:1,571,955 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:02:55 AM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse so solar causes distemper??
ih8op3c All-Star Author Kentucky Posts:525 Points:222,710 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 11:58:14 PM Ignore ih8op3c Report Abuse California? Haha. Next article please
onegiraffeAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,015 Points:428,425 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 11:57:27 PM Ignore onegiraffeAL Report Abuse ok
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:14,857 Points:1,438,095 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 11:55:34 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse This is what can happen when a project is rushed. The only reason they rushed is so they could have a photo op. And many of the protesters would protest any kind of development. We should have a sane energy policy, one that's main concern is inexpensive energy.
KrsnaDragon Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,392 Points:528,375 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 11:55:13 PM Ignore KrsnaDragon Report Abuse Leave the kit foxes alone... Karma!
johntxx Champion Author Texas Posts:2,761 Points:612,320 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 11:54:54 PM Ignore johntxx Report Abuse Obama has been an embarrassing blow to the US, from bowing to Saudi kings to trying to socialize the medical field to pouring tax dollars into defunct ventures. [Edited by: johntxx at 2/20/2012 10:55:37 PM EST]
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,805 Points:1,427,825 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 11:45:45 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse What's GEICO doing out there in the desert?