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US and China ... Energy Research Partnership

inhabitat.com -- By Brit Liggett

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"The United States and China are the top countries when it comes to world oil consumption, and the idea behind the partnership has been that these two large countries can find a common ground to work together to solve similar problems."

"Yesterday, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu announced that the two countries have formed the U.S.-China Clean Energy Research Center and will both provide a total of $100 million dollars in funding to research to get both energy hungry countries on the path to a greener future."

"We’re all for the University of Michigan figuring out the future of clean vehicles — especially when considering how much petroleum the US and China’s consume..."

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Submitted Sep 04, 2010 By: UncleCurt

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52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:4,914 Points:1,278,480 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2010 1:39:38 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse "Yesterday, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu announced that the two countries have formed the U.S.-China Clean Energy Research Center and will both provide a total of $100 million dollars in funding to research to get both energy hungry countries on the path to a greener future." Just what we need - another government research center.
packards42 Champion Author Washington Posts:4,244 Points:718,245 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:29:30 AM Ignore packards42 Report Abuse Great the US government is going to Borrow another tenth of trillion dollars, The Chinese do not strict have emission controls, why should they worry their cars and plan are more fuel efficient out of the box.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,272 Points:1,143,275 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:47:54 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse MAC48: that's b/c most ppl don't understand what is going on in the world - at least not beyond the TV set.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,272 Points:1,143,275 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:46:36 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse TheSicilian: the US already handed the keys to China - when we sent all manufacturing to them and started to buy things at Wally-World.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:3,545 Points:390,660 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:23:50 AM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Let's hope that this partnership will be viable.
MalibuGordie Champion Author California Posts:5,079 Points:1,054,030 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:16:29 AM Ignore MalibuGordie Report Abuse I'm wondering what makes our gov't think we can negotiate with China.
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,031 Points:1,004,275 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:11:35 AM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse soon china will own th US then what
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:267,902 Points:1,200,750 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:10:43 AM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse Sounds like a winner, if it is realistic!
Bubba44612 Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,188 Points:1,422,045 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:08:56 AM Ignore Bubba44612 Report Abuse Don't turn your back on them.
WCCurtis Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:3,304 Points:1,361,795 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:08:11 AM Ignore WCCurtis Report Abuse This is hard to believe with China buying up every bit of Crude Oil and Coal that they can find, even whole Companies.
LuckyTahoeGirl Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,609 Points:480,545 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:06:41 AM Ignore LuckyTahoeGirl Report Abuse that is a lot of money!!!!
Toppers Champion Author Atlanta Posts:6,673 Points:2,007,225 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 1:03:51 AM Ignore Toppers Report Abuse Hopefully a good combination...
MAC48 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:728 Points:499,925 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 1:35:13 PM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse A number of commenters berate any effort that would help clean up the use of coal. The facts are that the use of coal in the amounts used now & probably greater will be with us for as long as anyone can guess. Any thing that can be done to mitigate the harmful effects of coal use makes a great deal of sense. If sharing advances in technology that make using coal cleaner in terms of emissions helps the Chinese make their use of coal cleaner and reduce the amount of emissions drift across the Pacific into the US & Canada, then we absolutely need to do it. We will not live long enough, nor will our children & grand children, to see the day that the use of coal is replaced to any appreciable degree by solar, wind, geothermal or water generated electricity due to relationship of the cost of coal use versus cost of cleaner alternatives.
Hilsgal Sophomore Author Utah Posts:229 Points:236,890 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:35:30 PM Ignore Hilsgal Report Abuse How about if the Chinese first clean up their own act?? And stop taking so many shortcuts. (leadpaint) Is there more to be said???
goalie1950 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:4,054 Points:831,320 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:26:29 PM Ignore goalie1950 Report Abuse The US will do all the work in this partnership and the Chinese will standby and reap all the benefits. That's the way the Chinese operate.
I10Express Champion Author San Antonio Posts:6,316 Points:1,175,995 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:22:43 PM Ignore I10Express Report Abuse Weeeeeee! More tax money to spend. But seriously, how much tax money is Obama going to pork barrel back into his base support area.
zimowski Champion Author San Jose Posts:4,325 Points:1,120,735 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:21:06 PM Ignore zimowski Report Abuse China continues to hoard coal. Need to find a way to make it clean.
Tnerbeel Champion Author Houston Posts:6,360 Points:1,285,935 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:15:12 PM Ignore Tnerbeel Report Abuse An exercise in futility
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:21,280 Points:2,452,765 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:11:59 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse China primarily powers itself with coal. The do use oil for motive power and do generate some electricity via nuclear. But OK, what's the point? Are they going to try to coax China in to "clean coal" technology? Hey, if it's good enough for them, it ought to be good enough for us.
DirtDauber Champion Author San Antonio Posts:4,420 Points:1,163,325 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:09:29 PM Ignore DirtDauber Report Abuse Just another way to spend the Taxpayers dollars. I wonder if this situation is even worth dealing with. What do they hope to accomplish?
mackconsult Champion Author Portland Posts:3,698 Points:704,185 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:09:21 PM Ignore mackconsult Report Abuse What would they do with the results?
LongPlay Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:2,896 Points:841,310 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:09:05 PM Ignore LongPlay Report Abuse China will work with us as long as it is to their advantage. Proceed slowly and be careful what you give them.
applejoe Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,630 Points:766,320 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:08:50 PM Ignore applejoe Report Abuse US and China? Give me a break!!!!!!!
Cyberkedi Champion Author Atlanta Posts:11,970 Points:2,031,485 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:08:22 PM Ignore Cyberkedi Report Abuse Don't trust China? I can understand the feeling - but China won't be communist forever. They are economically capitalist, and eventually the communist system will die the death of a thousand cuts. I am leery of the Chinese government - but not the Chinese people. They are smart, and besides, it is much better to work with them than against them.
mazdaboy Champion Author Portland Posts:5,558 Points:1,637,205 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:07:14 PM Ignore mazdaboy Report Abuse This actually makes sense.
grandmacbc Champion Author Buffalo Posts:4,269 Points:999,380 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:07:14 PM Ignore grandmacbc Report Abuse Did you all see the 60 Minutes story on their spying? They probably already know what we are doing and will they be honest with us?????
tomklo All-Star Author Fort Worth Posts:790 Points:2,144,875 Joined:Jul 2002	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:05:04 PM Ignore tomklo Report Abuse Don't trust them either
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:3,789 Points:1,205,820 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:05:03 PM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse Clean? That is an oxymoron in China.
eddyp94 Champion Author Ontario Posts:6,753 Points:1,381,885 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 12:02:11 PM Ignore eddyp94 Report Abuse I don't trust china...
balljars Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,140 Points:1,218,225 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:59:47 AM Ignore balljars Report Abuse Sounds like a really good idea.
Dipstick1 Champion Author Amarillo Posts:6,621 Points:1,760,010 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:58:46 AM Ignore Dipstick1 Report Abuse I don't like it.
sivart Champion Author Arkansas Posts:15,145 Points:2,613,830 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:56:59 AM Ignore sivart Report Abuse The US and China should get together and tell OPEC what we will pay for crude? If we stop buying for one day it will put a big hurt on them!
gasman50 Champion Author Portland Posts:6,510 Points:1,947,570 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:56:08 AM Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse Another tax dollar give away?
PrepHermit Champion Author New Jersey Posts:5,804 Points:1,183,160 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:55:39 AM Ignore PrepHermit Report Abuse Talk about strange bed partners...
jb107 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,218 Points:2,155,785 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:54:15 AM Ignore jb107 Report Abuse Give it a few years and we will be the United States of China.
RCSW818 Sophomore Author Dayton Posts:220 Points:874,780 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:52:53 AM Ignore RCSW818 Report Abuse China has already left US in the dust in the alternate energy race. Why do we need to partner up with them. They have all the $ & jobs in the world, let them foot the bill for once. It's not like anyone here in the US is going to benefit from it anyway, except of course wall st & washington. That is the only time the give out $ is when it's going to benefit them. I think the end result will be China will end up with the technology & the US will end up with the bill.
twiper1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:5,477 Points:1,139,535 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:52:37 AM Ignore twiper1 Report Abuse Can we trust China?
slgas Champion Author Houston Posts:3,656 Points:1,096,615 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:50:59 AM Ignore slgas Report Abuse This is clearly going in the right direction.
NatureBoyKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:2,651 Points:975,880 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:49:39 AM Ignore NatureBoyKY Report Abuse China's consumption is going to go up up up. We all better hope that global warming is a myth or has another cause, like cow farts.
Eichhornchen Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,772 Points:747,390 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:49:00 AM Ignore Eichhornchen Report Abuse China. Clean energy? hmm.
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:13,855 Points:2,723,765 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:45:40 AM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse This isn't going to be good!
nozzle46 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:4,872 Points:1,097,575 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:43:56 AM Ignore nozzle46 Report Abuse I'm with you there,chilipop. Clean coal is is like mixing water with dirt.
murdershewrote Champion Author Riverside Posts:7,262 Points:2,144,760 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:43:50 AM Ignore murdershewrote Report Abuse bet china gets better part of any deal
ChilePop All-Star Author Georgia Posts:666 Points:943,110 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:41:49 AM Ignore ChilePop Report Abuse Half of the money goes for "clean coal technology" which is an oxymoron.
gas_too_high Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,190 Points:1,480,015 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:40:13 AM Ignore gas_too_high Report Abuse China historically has not been a good partner. They instead co-opt or steal outright, technology and trade secrets from their Western "partners". China is not to be trusted. GTH
MJIOWA Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,624 Points:642,420 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:39:28 AM Ignore MJIOWA Report Abuse MAYBE JUST MAYBE
CharlieC08 Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,389 Points:1,153,225 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:38:43 AM Ignore CharlieC08 Report Abuse Obummer has given us up to China.
Grismer Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:6,268 Points:1,273,495 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:32:26 AM Ignore Grismer Report Abuse From prior history, China has not been open to independent verification of any accords. I remain skeptical on this agreement, also.
Hunter114 Champion Author Chicago Posts:5,540 Points:993,910 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:32:14 AM Ignore Hunter114 Report Abuse Looks like another waste of money.
montytexas Champion Author Houston Posts:1,888 Points:1,077,105 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 11:31:55 AM Ignore montytexas Report Abuse Time will tell more about this one....